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thetravhi
New Member
- Dec 31, 2020
- #1
Hi, Everyone! Great site, just found it!
I just pulled out my Tyco Silver Streak train from back in 1980 (I think). I am writing today to get some support. My back up locomotive is not running, but it is very close. I just need some help. it is a Milwaukee Road (see pictures). When I put it in the tracks it will light up and everything spins, but it is not connected to the main engine. And, I am not sure how it connects to the wheels. Please see the pictures below, if you can offer any advice, that would be wonderful.
-Mike
PS. My original Silver Streak locomotive only lights up, but doesn't move, but that will be for another discussion topic in the future.
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gjohnston
Slow Learner
- Dec 31, 2020
- #2
When you say “everything spins”. I assume you mean the motor and the shaft from the motor, but not the wheels on the truck. The second picture clearly shows the end of the motor shaft disconnected from the input shaft on the truck. The two gray pieces join together to form the connection between the motor and the truck. Usually the just snap into place.
boatwrench
Well-Known Member
- Dec 31, 2020
- #3
Welcome. This website is full of very knowledgeable people willing to help. I wish you luck, it does look as simple as gjohnston has suggested and the drive shaft has come apart.
A word of caution. My son-in-law brought over his tyco & AHM trains from when he was a child in the early 1980s. I have been assisting and offering advice to him and my grandson to get a layout working. The plastic on his locomotives are brittle and for every step we take forward something else comes apart in our hands.
KB02
Well-Known Member
- Jan 1, 2021
- #4
Based off of the pictures, I would say that you are missing a piece. There should be a dog-bone style drive shaft that would fit into the grey cups.
Something like this:
Also looks like you have the motor sitting a little too far forward in the pics.
dennis461
Well-Known Member
- Jan 1, 2021
- #5
Motor re-power gone bad :-(
And, I doubt it is a Tyco.
Looks like life-like.
Candidate for trash can IMHO.
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GeeTee
Well-Known Member
- Jan 1, 2021
- #6
3 options ,
1. save the shell , and use on an Athearn Blue Box drive.
2. remove the gears and convert to a dummy ,
3. chuck it .
Its main value is in the nostalgia to you.
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trailrider
Well-Known Member
- Jan 1, 2021
- #7
GeeTee said:
3 options ,
1. save the shell , and use on an Athearn Blue Box drive.
2. remove the gears and convert to a dummy ,
3. chuck it .Its main value is in the nostalgia to you.
I'm afraid I'd have to agree with GeeTee. The motor appears to be loose, as well as the drive shaft connector being missing. You might be able to find an Athearn driveshaft part that would fit (possibly from Walthers or on ebay), but it might not be worth the effort. The motor runs on DC only, and if the rest of the set has a DC power pack, you'd want an Athearn Blue Box model. A used one, in working order, would probably be a lot cheaper than a new one. The shell might fit an Athearn Blue Box chassis, but you would probably be better to remove the gears from your model's trucks and use it as a dummy. Let us know what you decide.
bnsf971
Gomez Addams
Staff member
- Jan 1, 2021
- #8
If you're not emotionally attached to the engine, the best thing for it is to use it for display or weathering/painting practice.
If you really want it to run again, no matter what, we can advise you, just be aware it will cost much more than it's worth to do almost anything with it.
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thetravhi
New Member
- Jan 1, 2021
- #9
boatwrench said:
Welcome. This website is full of very knowledgeable people willing to help. I wish you luck, it does look as simple as gjohnston has suggested and the drive shaft has come apart.
A word of caution. My son-in-law brought over his tyco & AHM trains from when he was a child in the early 1980s. I have been assisting and offering advice to him and my grandson to get a layout working. The plastic on his locomotives are brittle and for every step we take forward something else comes apart in our hands.
Yes, I am wondering if it is all worth it. But, when I look online for new ones that have everything this set has, there is none cheap.
I will post pics if I get everything up and running.
-Mike
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thetravhi
New Member
- Jan 1, 2021
- #10
KB02 said:
Based off of the pictures, I would say that you are missing a piece. There should be a dog-bone style drive shaft that would fit into the grey cups.
Something like this:
Also looks like you have the motor sitting a little too far forward in the pics.
That is exactly what I need! I have figured out how to remount the engine and there is definitely distance between the two gears. Thank you for the post! Where would I get something like this? I figured if I can't, I can print it on a 3D printer at school, but no access to it until after COVID.
-Mike
KB02
Well-Known Member
- Jan 1, 2021
- #11
You could try something like this (result from a quick google search for “HO Scale universal driveshaft”): https://www.ebay.com/p/663655354
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thetravhi
New Member
- Jan 2, 2021
- #12
KB02 said:
You could try something like this (result from a quick google search for “HO Scale universal driveshaft”): https://www.ebay.com/p/663655354
Thank you, KB02, that looks perfect. Geez, I wonder if I should just buy a new locomotive. They have online for about $55. These repair parts will cost me almost $20 with shipping.
gjohnston
Slow Learner
- Jan 2, 2021
- #13
I had some old Athearn Blue Box Locomotives that I upgraded and converted to DCC. It was a good project and helped me understand how they work, and they are serviceable on the layout. But they do not compare to the newer locomotives I have purchased since. I think your money will be well spent on newer locomotives. The technology has come a long way since your locomotive was made.
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thetravhi
New Member
- Jan 2, 2021
- #14
Can I ask another question, since everyone has been so helpful. I have an original Tyco Silver Streak set from the 80s. It runs on DC power. The power still works for this, but this thread was about the problems with one of my trains.
I am now thinking of getting a new locomotive for it. Maybe one like this link. Will it run on my old system? I am including a picture of the power system, which is still functional.
Thank you for any advice. I will share pictures when I get everything up and running.
-Mike
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gjohnston
Slow Learner
- Jan 2, 2021
- #15
Yes this model is Standard DC powered. This assumes your DC power pack is in good working condition. They do go bad and can put out too much power and ruin your equipment. You can check the voltage with a multi meter.
EMD GP9M - Standard DC -- Burlington Northern #1709 (green, white)
This WalthersTrainline EMD GP9M diesel locomotive will be a real workhorse on your HO Scale model railroad, and is perfect for expanding or upgrading any train set too! Based on locos introduced in 1954 and still going strong today, the GP9M is available decorated in a variety of colorful...
www.walthers.com
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Iron Horseman
Well-Known Member
- Jan 6, 2021
- #16
gjohnston said:
Yes this model is Standard DC powered .
EMD GP9M - Standard DC -- Burlington Northern #1709 (green, white)
This WalthersTrainline EMD GP9M diesel locomotive will be a real workhorse on your HO Scale model railroad, and is perfect for expanding or upgrading any train set too! Based on locos introduced in 1954 and still going strong today, the GP9M is available decorated in a variety of colorful...
www.walthers.com
Agree. Walther's Trainline are fine entry level locomotives.
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